Casey Anthony:Who’s Story More Closely Matches The Electronic Records

While watching the Casey Anthony Murder Trial I began to review the electronic evidence for June 16 2008. I wanted to know which account more closely matches the afore mentioned evidence. Would George’s testimony be more adequately supported by that evidence or Casey’s defense story?
I will be using Casey’s cell phone pings, call logs, text logs, and internet log activity for this determination. The following is the results of that comparison:

June 15 2008: 7:18 pm Casey arrives home evidenced by her cell phone signal pinging off of a cell tower closest to her home.

This is also the timeframe Cindy Anthony says she and Caylee were in the family swimming pool in their backyard. She adds that Casey wanted to join them in the pool but she had decided it was getting too dark & it was getting cold. (Another Cindy statement has Casey actually joining them for a swim)

Anthony neighbor tells Mark Fuhrman that he overheard loud voices and swearing eminating from the Anthony backyard or property.

“I talked to one of the immediate neighbors that is within earshot of the Anthony house, and he said that Casey Anthony had one hell of a temper. And he heard her swearing at her mother several times, so loud that he could hear it from his house, and that he would never talk to his parents that way. And he said even Father’s Day weekend, that was going on. So whether that’s true or not, it’s something that he’s observed and heard on repeated times. We’d never heard that before, and so that’s interesting all unto itself.”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html

Jesse Grund later reveals to his father that Lee Anthony told him that she and Cindy had an altercation that night that culminated in Cindy strangling Casey.

“What Lee [Anthony] had told Jesse uhm, was that the fight the night before had escalated to the point that uh, Cindy had wrapped her hands around Casey’s throat and was trying to strangle her.”

Rick Plesea, Cindy Anthony’s brother posts about this fight on Topix website

http://www.topix.net/forum/county/orange-fl/T4UHQV6DMIUFOA9C5/p730 Pg 45

When asked about this alleged fight both Lee & Cindy deny it happened or that they told Jesse Grund anything like that.

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2011/0224/26984466.pdf pg 23

Casey makes & recieves calls & texts through out the evening and into the early morning hours of June 16 2008. Last call is from Tony Lazzaro &
is answered at 3:08 am with the call disconnecting at 3:22 am. Casey makes one last text to Tony Lazzaro upon call disconnect 3:22 am.

No electronic activity from 3:22 am until 7:45 am

7:45 am The Anthony house phone is used to check Casey’s cell phone voice mail.

George and Cindy Anthony both testify that Caylee usually wakes after Cindy has left for work (6:30 – 7:00 am approx). It is believed that Caylee awake that day around 7:30 – 7:45 when we see Casey’s activity resumes. It is possible that she was still asleep until later that morning.

7:28 – 9:27 am Casey calls, texts, & internet from Anthony home

9:27 am Casey posts a picture of the interior of Fusion nightclub on her MySpace page. This is the last Casey electronic activity until 1:27 pm.
No calls were made or answered, no internet/computer activity, no texting, pings remain at or near the Anthony home. Tony Lazzaro calls
Casey at 11:47 am but the calls goes unanswered. Casey does not respond to Tony’s call until 12:53 pm.  This represents a 4 hour gap in Casey’s electronic activity.

12:50 pm George claims Casey & Caylee leave the Anthony home. He allegedly is able to perfectly describe exactly what Caylee was wearing 30+ days later.

12:53 pm Casey returns to electronic activity but cell phone pings remains at or near the Anthony home. The following ping map provided by
Websleuths.com shows the cell towers Caseys cell phone signal was connecting to and bouncing back from.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103915041605280294744.00045939495d21e691a46&ll=28.558592,-81.309128&spn=0.265966,0.43396&t=h&z=11

12:55 pm Tony L returns Caseys text message.
1:00 pm Tony L calls Casey’s cell phone. (Call ends 1:13 pm)
1:26 pm Casey texts Jesse G
1:27 pm Casey texts Jesse G
(This is the approximate time that George Anthony left the family home on his way to his 2nd day on the job at Lexus.)
1:44 pm Casey calls Amy H. They speak for 36 minutes (Call ends 2:20 pm)
(25 – 30 minute gap in Casey electronic activity)
2:52 pm Jesse G calls Casey. They speak for 12 minutes (Call ends at 3:04 pm)
3:03 pm George calls Casey’s cell. She does not answer as she is still talking with Jesse G
(This call previously attributed by media as Casey calling George but is inaccurate)
This same call is made 3 minutes into George’s shift, 2nd day on the job
(Second 30 minute gap in Casey’s electronic activity)
3:35 pm Casey calls Tony L. Call goes unanswered
(Third 30 minute gap in Casey’s electronic activity)
4:10 pm Casey calls George @ Lexus. This call goes unanswered
4:11 pm Casey calls Cindy. This call goes unanswered
4:13 pm Casey calls Cindy. This call also goes unanswered
4:14 pm Casey calls George @ Lexus. This call disconnects after 1 minute
Casey appears to leave the Anthony home and/or area heading North.
4:18 pm Casey texts Tony L
4:19 pm Tony L texts Casey & Casey immediately calls him (1 minute call disconnects at 4:20 pm)
4:21 pm Casey calls Jesse G. This call goes unanswered.
4:25 pm Casey is in area of Gentiva, Cindy’s work per ping map & calls Cindy again. Again the call goes unanswered.
(2 hour 10 minutes gap in activity however we know that Casey’s pings have her traveling to Tony L’s apartment & she does not return to the Anthony residence or area any more this day. This being true Caylee’s death & the hiding of her remains would have had to happened at some point earlier in the day.)
6:31 pm Casey calls Cindy’s cell phone. This call goes unanswered
6:32 pm Casey calls Cindy’s cell phone. This call goes unanswered
6:32 pm casey calls home. Call lasts 1 minute & disconnects at 6:33 pm
7:06 pm Casey calls home. Call last 2 minutes & disconnects at 7:08 pm

I included the last 4 calls to show how many times Casey attempted to reach her mother, Cindy, that afternoon.

Now, as we look back over the evidence it become abundantly clear that there is a 4 hour gap in electronic activity and 3 smaller gaps of 30 minutes each. The larger gap is startling considering that usual electronic activity for Casey Anthony. Most especially the hour gap between Tony’s call and her response. I don’t believe there will be any other instance of this occurring during normal waking hours, either before or after June 16 2008.

George Anthony’s version of events & the State of Florida Prosecutor’s office contends that Caylee Anthony was murdered during one of those 30 minute gaps. While there are still 3  short gaps in activity; it is hard to imagine anyone murdering their child in cold blood, hiding the remains, and then calling and texting seconds after. Should this indeed be the case, I contend that the Death Penalty is in order. 

 I find it much more believable that Caylee was found drowned in the family pool & hidden by George and/or Casey during that 4 hour gap. In that senario Casey wouldn’t have replied to Tony right away. She would be busy or too distraught. Within 30 minutes of electronic activity resuming George leaves the Anthony home headed for Lexus. Before George leaves for work Casey texts Jesse Grund twice. It may have been because she didn’t want George to over hear what was said. Immediately after George leaves Casey calls Amy H. They talk for over a half an hour. Thirty minutes later Jesse calls Casey where upon they speak for 12 minutes.  Jesse later reveals that Casey had told him during that conversation “My mom wants me out of the house & my parents are getting divorced” (Shirley & Rick Plesea emails support this) Jesse admits it was not a regular conversation.  As soon as George is on the clock at work he calls Casey. Was this to validate an alibi?

After speaking with Tony, Jesse, & Amy she calls Dad, Mom, Mom, Dad. When all of these calls go unanswered she leaves the Anthony home. Was Casey trying to get her parents to agree to come clean with authorities? Did she want to tell the truth at that point? If Casey outright & in cold blood murdered Caylee why was she calling her parents repeatedly? I am sure it wasn’t to say “Guess what I just did”.

Did George hide Caylee somewhere Casey was unaware of? Without Caylee’s remains Casey would be unable to prove what really happened. Were Caylee’s remains later put into Casey’s trunk without her knowledge. She did claim that George had borrowed her car the day before the smell became noticable. Did George just plant some of the decomposition fluids? Was he the one who put Caylee’s remains where she was finally located? Where does Roy Kronk fit into all of this?

My next article will show how Roy Kronk’s “discovery” coincided with the State’of Florida’s decisions to not seek the Death Penalty,  the reversal of that decision & how it applies to a Death Penalty sentencing.

How Does The State’s Decisions On Seeking The Death Penalty Fit Into The Sexual Abuse Allegations Timeline?

I wanted to follow-up on my previous article with information about when the State of Florida prosecutors both dropped the Death Penalty charges & later decided to reinstitute the Death Penalty charges and how these decisions fit into the abuse allegations timeline. The following is the evidence of those decisions & what I have concluded.

December 5 2008: State Not Seeking The Death Penalty

In a release about the decision, the State Attorney’s Office wrote:

“This afternoon, after consideration of the law and unique facts applicable to the above case, the State filed its notice that it is not in the best interest of the people of the State of Florida to pursue the death penalty as a potential sentence. Therefore, the State of Florida will not be seeking the death penalty against defendant Casey Anthony.”

If something were to change, for instance if Caylee’s body were to be found before the case goes to trial, prosecutors could change their minds and decide to go for the death penalty.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18213616/detail.html

December 12 2008: Caylee’s remains are finally located via Roy Kronk’s information
Sheriff’s Office spokesman Jim Solomons said that a utility worker found the body at 9:32 a.m. EST Thursday in a wooded area less than a half-mile from the house Caylee lived in with her grandparents and mother.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465424,00.html

December 16 2008: Lee Anthony’s DNA comparison to Caylee Anthony’s DNA report is recieved proving he is not Caylee Anthony’s Biological father.

See pg 60 of the following document for date this report was recieved. Page 61 describes that DNA was collected, what date, & who from. Page 62 relays the information of Lee not a match for Caylee’s DNA.

http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18740657/detail.html

December 19 2008: Remains Confirmed To Be Caylee Anthony

Medical Examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia said,

“With regret, I am here to inform you that the skeletal remains found on Dec. 11 are those of the missing toddler Caylee Anthony.”

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-body-dna-121908,0,1859200.story

April 13 2009: Fla. Seeks Death for Casey Anthony Prosecution reverses earlier decision after remains found

http://www.newser.com/story/56095/fla-seeks-death-for-casey-anthony.html

Prosecutors knew within days of Caylee’s remains being found that her DNA would not prove the sexual abuse allegations. Four months later they reversed their previous decision and decided to seek the Death Penalty at trial.

Did Casey Tell The Sexual Abuse Story To Authorities In 2008?

Throughout the Caylee Anthony Missing Child case & the Casey Anthony Murder case people have often stated they believe that if Casey had told authorities the drowning &/or sex abuse story that the State of Florida would not have sought a murder charge or the death penalty. I believe I have found evidence to prove that Casey did in fact relay this version of events to authorities in October of 2008.

October 13 2008: Casey Indicted by Grand Jury

Once at the OCSO Department Casey tells officers that she and her attorney, Jose Baez, are willing to have a sit-down meeting with authorities to discuss the facts of the case. This sit-down meeting is not recorded but the minutes preceding it are recorded by Nifter Media on You tube. Videos 1-7  (videos 4,5, & 6 are of Casey sitting in the room alone)

(video 1)

In video 7 at 5:30 the video picks back up after the unrecorded meeting. A male voice off camera asks Casey “Why did you wait so many years to tell about it?” The officers on camera become visibly annoyed and ignore the question as does Casey. Both men turn away from the questioner and the officer on the left chatters about the handcuffs to change the subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP4IpK6sGEU&t=5m30s  (Video 7)

*****Edited to included correct video

October 20 2008:

The rest of the Anthony family has DNA collected. A FBI investigator orders Lee’s sample to be typed against Caylee’s sample to determine paternity. The return FBI report documents when the samples were taken, which test they were used for, and the results of those tests. The DNA paternity test is negative for Lee Anthony being Caylee’s biological father. Keep in mind that this testing is requested after the unrecorded meeting & within 6 days of that meeting.

http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18740657/detail.html (Pages 61 & 62)

This, I propose, is proof positive that Casey relayed the sexual abuse story to authorities on October 13 2008.It is my estimation that they required Casey to offer proof of these allegations. Her answer was the potential forCaylee to be Lee’s child via incestual rape. While it is now known that Lee is not Caylee’s father it neither provesnor disproves the incest allegations.

While it appears that the authorities did entertain the idea & investigated her claims they did not change their position on the charges. If  prosecutors did temporarily change their position they later reverted back to theMurder I charges & sought the Death Penalty. I believe this is due to Caylee’s  DNA not matching for Lee Anthony. This would have been proof positive of her claims.

Outside of the DNA matching, the only other evidence that could be given to support these claims would be aneye-witness testimony from a person known to Casey long-term.

These allegations have yet to be proven.

UPCOMING ARTICLES:

Did Florida Prosecutors Temporarily Stop Seeking The Death Penalty Due to Casey’s Abuse Allegations?

Further research into when FL State Prosecutors stated they would not seek the Death Penalty & how it fits into the unrecorded meeting about abuse claims & DNA testing timeline. Also when the Prosecution reverted back to seeking the Death Penalty & how it fits into this timeline.

The Casey Anthony Boyfriend Timeline

    While following the Caylee Anthony case I have often heard her mother Casey referred to as a slut or comments about her cheating on the men in her life.  However, I had noticed a different pattern and wanted to spend some time clairifying it, even if just for myself. I used the statements & depositions of the men Casey was involved with along with any electronic communications to make this timeline.

Casey sex w TonyR             01/02/2008 
Casey & Rico begin            02/23/2008
Casey & Rico split              04/14/2008
Casey sex w TonyR 1x     05/02/2008  
Casey sex wih ChrisS       05/17/2008   
Casey Met TonyL              05/24/2008
Casey TonyL 1st               06/01/2008    

Once Casey started dating TonyL she never spoke to TonyR again

Casey staying over at Rico’s after 06/15/2008 does not mean they had sex. Amy was also there & she and Rico were dating/sleeping together by that time.

None of these guys were cheated on.

Ultimately Casey had sex with 4 different guys during this timeline.  Some might say “Four guys in 5-6 months?? That’s a lot!” while others might cover that number in 1 week or 1 month.

I wonder how many sex partners Amy, Annie, Maria, and/or the guys had during that same time?

Edited to include ChrisS encounter. He was a previous boyfriend. Thank you @DianeAx for the reminder about Chris. Here is the link to his offical statement that verifies this date.  http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608christopherstutz/1/lg/Christopher_Stutz_Page_04.htm

Putnam Visitor Kendra Snoddy Dies Under Suspicious Circumstances

by Lesa Conway

   Kendra Douglas Snoddy, mother of 3, visited Putnam county FL for a couple of days just after the 4th of July holiday. She had enjoyed a happy 4th with her daughters and her brother, Deputy Mark Douglas of the Indian River Sheriff’s Department. Mark had thrown a party and Kendra attended. She brought her daughters and a friend. The man with Kendra was a previous boyfriend from her teenage years. They had gone their separate ways for the past 25 years and had managed to re-connect just a few months before. Kendra’s brother Mark says he had not seen Tom Shumacher in the interim 25 yrs either but was leery of him and their relationship.

   After leaving Mark’s home in Vero Beach FL, Kendra and Tom made their way to Interlachen where Tom had been residing. Kendra had previously gotten acquainted with Tom’s friends, Jon Carlson, and his two room mates Billy Robertson and Julie Chaffe. Just after 12:10 pm on Monday, July 5th, Kendra’s daughters lost contact with her. Deputy Douglas says “Kendra was the type that if she received a text from the girls she would answer within seconds. That’s how connected they were to one another”. When further attempts to reach Kendra went unanswered her family became concerned.

   Sources say that Kendra was seen at the Eagles Lodge on State Road 20 in Interlachen on Tuesday afternoon into early evening. She arrived in the company of Jon & Julie. People who were present state that Jon & Julie were so intoxicated that they both vomited on Lodge premises. Kendra also appeared extremely intoxicated and sources say witnesses were in fear for her safety and well-being. When the trio left the lodge they were heading to Jon’s house. He was hosting a party there and was expecting several people.

   Later that night or early the next morning a 911 call was placed to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department. Kendra was dead, victim of an overdose or so some are claiming. Kendra’s remains were  at Tom Shumacher’s residence, 106 Maverick Dr, Interlachen. That location is just blocks away from where the party was held. It is almost the exact mid-point between the Eagles Lodge and Jon Carlson’s home as well.

   By the next day rumors started to swirl about what had really happened to Kendra Snoddy. Some claimed that she had been experiencing overdose symptoms while at the party and was removed by Jon, Tom, & Billy to another location so that she wouldn’t die on Carlson’s property. Others said that Kendra had been taken close to a lake and abandoned.

    When Shumacher was interviewed by PCSO he claimed she had taken an overdose of her own medication. He said he found her in his bed with 3 empty pill bottles and claimed it was a suicide. Kendra’s brother Mark says they will know for sure once the toxicology reports come back in about 6 weeks. He also says he and his parents in no way believe that Kendra would willingly ingest all of those pills or try to commit suicide. Kendra has been described as a sweet, loving person who loved her daughters and was very close with them. Her family and friends in no way believe that she would choose to leave them, especially in that manner.

  When I spoke with Mark, he revealed to me that their father is a veteran Funeral Home Director. Both he and Mark have had extensive experience with death and human remains. Both men feel due to the conditions of Kendra’s remains, she may have been deceased for up to 24 hours longer then what is being reported to law enforcement. They also believe that Kendra was relocated after her death. Mark says he would not be shocked to hear that Kendra was abandoned during the last hours as she struggled for her life.

  Another source stated that “Tom Shumacher has left town and Jon, Billy, & Julie continue to party on as if nothing has happened. They think they are covering their tracks with this overdose story.”

    The Douglas family is very grateful for information about Kendra’s death. Mark would like for people to know that there will be a cash reward given in exchange for information that leads to an arrest and conviction should it be determined that Kendra was left to die rather than call for medical aid or had been moved either prior to or after her death. They love Kendra and mourn her passing.

    Kendra will be laid to rest on Saturday, July 10, 2010. Visitation will be from 11 a.m. – 2 p.m. Saturday at the First Presbyterian Church, 520 Royal Palm Blvd. Vero Beach, FL. A funeral service will be held 2 p.m. Saturday at the First Presbyterian Church with Dr. G. Timothy Womack officiating. Interment will follow in Crestlawn Cemetery, Vero Beach, FL.

Arrangements are under the direction of Strunk Funeral Home and Crematory Vero Beach, FL. A guest book may be signed at http://www.strunkfuneralhome.com

Memorial contributions may be made to St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital , 5011 St. Jude Place, Memphis, TN 38105 in memory of Kendra

If you have any information about Kendra Douglas Snoddy or her death please contact Putnam County Sheriff’s Department or Indian River Sheriff’s Department.

Putnam County Sheriff
Jeff Hardy jhardy@putnamsheriff.org
386-329-0800
Toll Free, Non-Emergency Calls / General Information 1-800-426-9975
CRIME STOPPERS HOTLINE 1-888-277-8477

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Putnam Drugs Rampant: Interlachen Visitor Dies Of Drug Overdose After Left By Lake

 

 BY: Lesa Conway

 It was brought to my attention tonight that yet another person has fallen to the prevalence of drugs in Putnam County FL. It seems that Kendra Douglas Snoddy, 41, of Sunrise FL came to Interlachen FL over the July 4th Holiday and did not leave alive. Sources say that Kendra was visiting with friends and had plans to attend a party Tuesday night in Interlachen .

Kendra D Snoddy

 Kendraq’s Picture is borrowed from her FaceBook page: http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=100001095262227#!/profile.php?id=1845608021

  She had been seen in the company of local residents at a nearby Eagles Lodge late that afternoon. She appeared to be extremely intoxicated as did her companions. Witness report that both the male and the female with her vomited before leaving. I am told others at the club were concerned for her welfare. Sometime between 6:00 PM and Midnight on Tues, June 6th 2010 Kendra experienced symptoms of an overdose. There was a 911 call made. Kendra did not make it. I have forwarded more specific information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office in reports I’ve recieved so far.

  One person was very upset and confused as to why there was no media coverage about it. ApparentlyI am the only person writing about Kendra. My contact is very concerned that there is more to this story and hopes the truth will come out. She personally knew Kendra and said she didn’t seem the type. She did know that some aquaintances of Kendra’s are very much into the drug scene, including Kendra’s boyfriend, who is a local resident and is rumored to have been at the party with Kendra the night she died. I know there was a 911 call and that Kendra was picked up beside a lake & not at the party host’s property, by design. Kendra likely died because she didn’t recieve help fast enough. More than one person took Kendra away from the party and dropped her along a nearby lake. That is where I am told the ambulance responded to. Kendra leaves behind three daughters, a brother, and more. Those who knew her say she was a good person who let her heart lead her to danger then ultimately death.

  We now know that Haleigh Cummings and her brother Jr were surrounded by drugs. Many people believe, in one way or another, that drug lifestyle choice made by their care-takers is directly responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance and possibly her death. Haleigh wasn’t able to make her family change and the situation was beyond her ability to choose. Kendra was able to choose. She chose the people she was with, she most likely chose the alcohol & drug(s), but she didn’t choose to be relocated and left in the grass, as precious minutes and her life ticked away.

 Followers of Haleigh’s case have argued/debated many times about the possibility that Haleigh also died as a result of a drug overdose and dumped rather then receiving help. We still don’t know for sure after 18 months. I implore you, if you have any infomation about this case please contact Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. We can not allow a person’s life to end just because someone else is afraid of a drug charge. We need to do everything we can to ensure this never happens to another person. Both within Putnam County FL and our own home towns.

 Putnam County Sheriff
Jeff Hardy jhardy@putnamsheriff.org
386-329-0800
Toll Free, Non-Emergency Calls / General Information 1-800-426-9975
CRIME STOPPERS HOTLINE 1-888-277-8477

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Transcript from Tommy & Lindsy Jail Visit from Pick Your Poison Article

Here is the transcript I typed from the Jail visit of Tommy Crsolin by his wife Lindsy Croslin  approx  mid-March 2010  from the Pick Your Poison article by Simon Barrett at BNN.

Originally posted at link in comments

http://www.bloggernews.net/124479#comments

Tommy: Hello

Lindsy: Hey baby

Tommy: They just took a picture of you…

Lindsy: What?

Tommy: Yea, you didn’t see that flash?

Lindsy: No. Why?

TOmmy: I don’t know…probably to put on tv

Lindsy: Are you serious?

Tommy: (laughs)

Lindsy: Are you serious?

Tommy: I guess, that’ what everybody said…there was a Fn flash it’s your picture being took. I don’t know…

Lindsy: Oh well…

TOmmy: I love ya…

Lindsy: I love you too…It so rainy today..

TOmmy: I know, I’ve been looking out the window and it’s rainy as h*ll…

Lindsy: We’ve been under a tornado watches and stuff…

Tommy: Really?

Lindsay: HmmHmmm It’s been raining all night & all day..

Tommy: Yea…What time is it?

Lindsy:I should of….??? if I’d of known they were gonna take my picture..lol

TOmmy: Yea…(Yelling to someone in background) What time?

Lindsy: 2:00

TOmmy: 2:00?

Lindsy: Umm hmmm

Tommy: Yea, I’ve been waitin for ya…

Lindsy: You didn’t get much sleep did you? (Hee Heee Hee)

TOmmy: No…

Lindsy: You have eaten?

Tommy: Yea, Scott tried to eat some of it…(Laughs)

Lindsy: (Laughs) I love you, I miss you…

Tommy: I miss you too..did you have fun at the gym?

Lindsy: Yea, I’m going back tonight

Tommy: Are ya?

Lindsy: I’ve got a spinning class…(laughs)

TOmmy: A what?

Lindsy: SPinning Class?..

Tommy: What’s that about?

Lindsy: It has all theses, like, weird looking bikes and they have like music and it’s supposed to be really good for like your abs and thighs…

Tommy: Who’s all going? Just you Ashley and Lisa?

Lindsy: Lisa’s not going, Ashley just texted me and said she wants to try it.

Tommy: Yea…

Lindsy: Lisa’s going to a birthday party, she’s been cheatin anyway..she’s ain’t gonna loose no weight.

TOmmy: (Laughs) Yea…..

Lindsy: I’ve…I’ve lost 7 pounds

Tommy: Yea, well, don’t loose too much..

Lindsy: I’m not…I’m not…I’m just trying to…but I’m gonna gain it in muscle…you knowwhat I mean…

TOmmy: Silly…

Lindsy: Be buff….(Laughs 3times)

TOmmy: You better stop…(Laughs)

Lindsy: (Laughs again)

Tommy: D@mn it! (laughs)

Lindsy: (Laughs) I love you…

Tommy: I love you too…I miss you…

Lindsy: I miss you baby…

Tommy: You get any mail from me today?

Lindsy: I didn’t check the mail today..it’s pouring (laughs)

TOmmy: Well, you need to check it…

Lindsy: I’ll check it today, but I haven’t checked it yet…I don’t know…

Tommy: I sent you something else out today…

Lindsy: Ok…I don’t knowwhat time my mail runs…

Tommy: I don’t know..

Lindsy: I’ll have to figure it out…call the post office

Tommy: But if…I sent you two letters out this week.

Lindsy: Ok…

Tommy: So you should get em this week…If you don’t get em you need to find out why the F you ain’t gettin em! Cause you ain’t got all the sh*t I wrote ya.

Lindsy: Um mmm (Negative)

TOmmy: It’s BS! There ain’t no reason for them to keep it…(Laughs)

Lindsy: I hear that…

Tommy: Did ya? (laughs)

Lindsy: Yea,,,(Laughs)

Tommy: Ugghh….

Lindsy: So what time did you get up today?

Tommy: Like noon…I was..I was up at early but it was still dark out so I just kind of laid there and slept a little bit on and off…

Lindsy: (Laughs) I figured you weren’t gonna get up….you usually don’t get up by this time..(Laughs)

TOmmy: No…

Lindsy: I love you..You look really good today.

Tommy: Thank ya…you do too.

Lindsy: (Laughs) You look really sexy…

Tommy: Than you…you do too babe.

Both: (Laughs)

Tommy: You ain’t heard nothin about the van gettin fixed? You take it to Willard?

Lindsy: Uh no, I didn’t take it to Willard..I think…they’re talking about putting a new engine in…but my friend’s comming..the week after I get back from M..S…

TOmmy: Who’s that?

Lindsy: You know who I’m talking about…

Tommy: Oh…alright…

Lindsy: Don’t say it..don’t say it..

TOmmy: Alright…

Lindsy: So…

Tommy: So, maybe…he..It’ll be able to get out of here before I go to court…on bond…cause he’ll probably..

Lindsy: Yea, I know..he said hopefully he can have you home by…when I get home.

Tommy: (sniffs) I hope he can too..

Lindsy: That’s what he said…he said “Wouldn’t that be nice if you comehome and he was there?” I said “Yea!”

Tommy: He’s got three weeks. Three weeks till I go to court.

Lindsy: I know…

Tommy: So he is comming down?…He’ll probably be at the courthouse

Lindsy: Well,no..He’s going to..no… after I get home…but if he has to come down sooner he said he will but probably not till after I come home.

Tommy: Uh…ok…

Lindsy: He said..He said wouldn’t it be nice to have you home and I said “Yea” (Laughs)

TOmmy: (Laughs) Yea…it would. For a little while…

Lindsy: Yep…..(Laughs)

TOmmy: Yea it would for a little while

Lindsy: yep..

TOmmy: I’m sure I’m gonna get some type of time off of all this. I’m ..I’ve already come to accept that.

Lindsy: Yea, well, we’ll just see what

Tommy: I hope it’s not thatlong…you know…

Lindsy: ..might even be 18 months…

TOmmy: MIght even be longer…but I’m not going to let it bother me. Wrote in my letter, you know how I act like this chit don’t bother me, it does. I just gotta make the best out of it. This Fn sh*t hurts me bad,..not being home with my family..my kids..I miss you guys.

Lindsy: we miss you too…51 days today….

Tommy: Yea…about as ..try to make the best out of this.

Lindsy: Yea, I know…

TOmmy: The best out of a bad situation. I can’t Fn be worried and stressed out n sh*t, I’ll die in here.

Tommy: What sucks is I’m Fn locked down like a dog in a d@mn cage all day long..

Lindsy: I know..better to be in there though then be out in the …the regular..

Tommy: Not really..

Lindsy:…jail…for you…

TOmmy: No! Nobody’s gonna F with me..I mean..people next door are my friends now. I..

Lindsy: Shhhh…

Tommy: For real! (Laughs) Talk to them all the time through the doors..

Lindsy: People ..what about all them people that talk sh*t? say?

Tommy: They don’t do that no more…we talk through the door n sh*t…

Lindsy: So they’re not mean to you anymore?

TOmmy: No!

Lindsy: Then why don’t you get out?

TOmmy: Cuz they ain’t gonna let me…It’s BS! Stuck in here..

Lindsy: It’s crazy…

Tommy: Well….(resigned)

Lindsy: I love you…

Tommy: I love you too…I hope you get them pictures back..then you can send me them in your letter.

Lindsy: I know…

TOmmy: It’s BS!

Lindsy: I know..I’ll go..um…to wal-mart maybe today…I’ll have Ashley folow me to wal-mart. (Sniffs) and I’ll get you some more pictures.

Tommy: Alright…

Lindsy: So if those don’t come …um…I’ll just get you different ones.

TOmmy: Ddd Did you ask my mom and dad about…ahhh, my dad when he gets on here, about them sending me a picture cause I never did got..

Lindsy:No I didn’t ask, I keep forgetting…

TOmmy: Cuase they said in their letter there was a picture and there was not one in there. They took the letter from Misty out and the picture. I know it was probably just…our littel family portrait, of me my mom, my brother and Misty. e all took together. It’s probably the one it was.

Lindsy: I don’t know,Tommy, it might not be cause Misty has one.

Tommy: I know they said they was sending me a picture and I never got it.

Lindsy: Yea, you know what yourmom did? I gave her our wallet sized picture…

TOmmy: I know, you told me….

Lindsy: She sent it to Misty…

Tommy: I know…

Lindsy: Now I don’t have one.

Tommy: That’s BS! You got the big one.

Lindsy: But still, I like the ..I liked having that little wallet one..

Tommy: I know…

Lindsy: Cause Layala…Layla would be like, you know…mommmy, daddy, Chelsea, (Laughs)

Tommy: I know…

Lindsy: (continues) Nanna, …yep…sux…yea, your dog batter not do anything in my hosue today.

Tommy: (Laughs) You need to start taking him out, even if it’s raining you goota take him out. He’s gonna go to the bathroom one time or other today. You gotta take him out.

Lindsy: Yea, but it’s been like..Tom, it’s like flooded outside.

Tommy: I know but still..

Linsdy: For real…

Tommy: still it’s your….you gotta take him out side..

Lindsy: I’ll see…I’ll close his uh…his leash in the sliding glass door & let him go outside (laughs) so I don’t have…

Tommy: He’ll break that d@mn door down…gonna have to get cha rain coat ( laughs)

Lindsy: My friend’s calling me…

Tommy: Is he?…Well, answer it!

Lindsy: Can’t…can’t have ?? here…

Tommy: Well, I’m glad you come to see me, I was worried you weren’t gonna make it.

Lindsy: No…I was gonna make it..

Tommy: Who’s gonna put in…what what you’re grandpa and Willard talking about getting you a new motor to put in the van?

Lindsy: They’re talkin about it…but (clears throat) they said if my breaks comming then maybe we should just wait. Cause it’s driveable in town.

Tommy: Yea…

Lindsy: Cuz it only goes like 40 mph…(laughs) the speed limit

TOmmy: Yea, (laughs) I..I hope it don’t stop you from comming to see me man, but I’ll understand if it does.

Lindsy: It won’t…No it won’t…it won’t..I’ll figure it out.

Tommy: I love you….

Lindsy: I love you too baby…

Tommy: You need to get you some allergy medicine so the snot will go away…(Laughs)

Lindsy: I know….

Tommy: (Laughs again)

Lindsy: it’s awful…

Tommy: What time are you going to the gym tonight? Same time?

Lindsy: 6:00 – 6:30

TOmmy: You’re gonna go there at 6:30?

Lindsy: Yea…

TOmmy: Oh, alright…well, I might not be able to call ya…unless you keep your phone with ya.

Lindsy: we’re out …It’s only for an hour…

Tommy: Yea, love you…like 7:30 when you’re done..

Lindsy: yea!

Tommy: Alright, I’m waitin…might have…see it’s hard for me to get out of my cell because there’s so many people in here, if I don’t throw my towel up real quick…after shift change, I might not get out.

Lindsy: Well, just…I’ll keep my phone on me…

Tommy: Alright….

Lindsy: But if it you can…you try to call me after 7:30 I don’t want to miss my work out…

Tommy: I know…YOu’re so silly…you better not lose all your weight woman…

Lindsy: My boobs are getting smaller…

Tommy: You need to stop…

Lindsy: (Laughs)

Tommy: For real!…

Lindsy: (Laughs) They’re not, I’m just joking…(Laughs)

Tommy: You better not lose all your….I like you how you are.

Lindsy: (Laughs)

Tommy: (Laughs) So silly….

Linsy: (Still laughing) I think it’s no…I think it’s right now.

TOmmy: Oh yea?

Lindsy: Yea but I think it’s muscle, I’m nto trying to get skinny, skinny. I wanna gain muscle.

TOmmy: You…Women don’t need no d@mn muscles, ain’t tryin to have you Fn..all muscled out…You crazy..

Lindsy: Not like that! But like, maybe, some ..maybe like get some abs…that would be nice.

TOmmy: I don’t know… do push-ups all the time in here…all the time..

Lindsy: (Laughs)

Tommy: (laughs) got nothin else to do…(laughs)

Lindsy: (Laughs)

Tommy: Slap my card and do whatever number it says to do….

Lindsy: so funny….

Tommy: That’s really all I can do…I tried doing pull ups on the door when it’s closed but it’s kindo of hard.

Lindsy: why?

TOmmy: Because man, just…holding my fingers through these little squares and the Fn…my knees are hitting the doors …cra.. it don’t work.

Lindsy: (Laughs) That’s so…that’s funny.

Tommy: I need to shave, I missed shavin yesterday d@mn it.

Lindsy: You need to shave that front of it off…

Tommy: Why?

Lindsy: Cause I don;t like it…

Tommy: Well..(Laughs) I don’t like you going to the gym either…

Lindsy: (Hesitates) Well, then I guess you get to keep your little hair…

BOth: (Laugh)

Tommy: But…YOu know, you’ll be alright…

Lindsy: Yea..

Tommy: Just don’t loose too much…to wher ya…don’t be gettin all skinnied up…

Lindsy: I’m not…I don’t think I could get very skinny…I just want to feel good about myself too.

Tommy: Well, I know…I don’t know why you don’t anyways… (pause) Oh..

Lindsy: When I look good in a bathing suit then I’ll be happy…

Tommy: You do!

Lindsy: You think I do…

Tommy: Well why does it matter waht anybody else thinks?

Lindsy: It doesn’t…it matters what I think…That’s why I’m not listening to you (laughs) Cuz it doesn’t matter what you think (laughs)

Tommy: (Laughs)

Lindsy: No it does matter, but you know what I mean…you don’t like being fat…

Tommy: I’m not fat…

Lindsy: Yea but when I say 250 lbs – 225 lbs “Oh that’s too fat, that’s too fat”

Tommy: Yea, that is a little big…(laughs)

Lindsy: I like it…I like it when you’re big…

Tommy: I’m probably almost 200 lbs again…

Lindsy: Good!

Tommy: I’m pretty sure I probably am I’ve gained some weight since I started Fn getting commissary.

Lindsy: (Laughs) Good! ….then …

Tommy: I pull off some sh*t last night, God…(laughs)

Lindsy: Were you sick?

Tommy: My stomach was killin me…I get bored man, I’m just sittin there lookin at them tater chips and all that other sh*t and I’m like D@mn, I’m gonna eat somethin (Laughs)

Lindsy: You’re so funny…I haven’t had anything sweet since Saturday..

Tommy: Yea, that won’t last long…

Lindsy: I’ve been doing good….

Tommy: (Laughs)

Lindsy: But I can eat Jello, they…I have some sugar-free Jello

Tommy: Yea…

Lindsy: I can eat that…and I can eat cheese so I got those little string cheese thingies

Tommy: Oh Jesus…you’re silly….(laughs) Where they gonna get you a motor? They gonna buy you a brand new motor? or a used one?

Lindsy: I don’t know…I have no idea..

Tommy: well, the van there ain’t really much ofnothing wrong with it, it’s just the motor in it now…you know…

Lindsy: Yea, but he…

Tommy: It’s got a good body…

Lindsy: He told me though, that I ..eventually..we fix the motor and then the other stuff is gonna start happening too…he says….

Tommy: Naw that’s…

Lindsy: He says it’s just wear and tear…It’s just an old…I don’t want my van..hush!

BOth: (Laughs)

Tommy: I like the van…

Lindsy: It does really need a motor but…it…I don;t want the stupid thing..

Tommy: Yea, I know but..

Lindsy: A Nissan Ultima…you watch…

TOmmy: (laughs)

Lindsy: I found a couple of them on ebay for under $10,000…

Tommy: ( laughs hard) Where you gonna get that kind of money at?

Lindsy: I’m gonn figure it out…but don’t worry cops cuz I’m not gonna sell drugs..I’m no drug dealler (Laughs)

Tommy: Neither am I …Never have been (drug dealer)

Lindsy: (Laughs) Yea but that’s whatt they consider you

Tommy: Well, they’re Fn stupid too, they Know I ain’t no drug dealer…they weren’t ryin to go after no drug dealers

Lindsy: I know…

TOmmy: It’s BS!!

Lindsy: I know

Tommy: But that’s all good ..just gave me time to get myself clean..

Lindsy: I love oyu

TOmmy: I love you too…I ain’t gonna lie, I mean sometimes I still have urges, I feel like, yea, I wish i had one of them thing but I don’t need it, I know I don’t.

Lindsy: Yea, Like see, if you were out though…

Tommy: I don’t know…I think I could resist it..

Lidsy: I don’t think you could…I don’t think you’re ready yet
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Tommy: I could resist it…I’ve been having some stupid dreams too…like dreamin I’m F’ed up n sh*t..I don’t know why the h*ll I do that…but I have…

Lindsy: That’s crazy…

Tommy: I had one last night ( Laughs) I woke up sweatin, I was like WTF?

Lindsy: What were you doing? Just…walkin around…

TOmmy: Just gettin high (Laughs) It was crazy..it was …I was wandering around with Tim, with my brother, of all people, he don’t do no…he don’t get high…I don’t know why I had that kind of dream but I did. It was weird…

Lindsy: The detectives are trying to tell Chelsea that you smoke crack…

Tommy: F them detectives! I don’t smoke no d@mn crack! I take pills!

Lindsy: they talk about you do powder too…

Tommy: F them! WHen they say that?!

Lindsy: They told…I don’t know…the otherday…

Tommy: Oh well! F them! DOn’t worry about what they say…(Laughs) I love ya!

Lindsy: (Laughs) Yea…good…good save Tom…real good save…

Tommy: Well, it is…I don’t do that kind of sh*t! I’ve don coke in the past, yea…That ain’t my drug of choice…not like pills….if I’m gonna spend my money to buy some drugs I’m gonna buy some pills….

Lindsy: QUit getting mad cause you can tell cause you start doing this…start movin…

Tommy: I like to move cause my d@mn back starts hurtin sittin on this Fn stool. .. I love ya

Lindsy: I can hear Your dad from way over here…

Tommy: He’s loud…(Laughs)He’s …big fat f*ck..(Laughs) His @ss is gettin big…(Laughs)

Lindsy: He does, he talks so loud…He’ll come in here talkin to Margo on the phone…

Tommy: Did he? (laughs)

Lindsy: People was lookin at us crazy…(Laughs)

Tommy: I wrote them a letter and they ain’t wrote me one back yet…

Lindsy: Who margo?

TOmmy: No, Nicki…

Lindsy: Nicki?

Tommy: Margo’s daughter…

Lindsy: I know who she is…No, I think your dad said that they wrote you..

Tommy: Yea…they..They did, they wrote me one letter…Nicki did…and I wrote her back. she told me to write her and she’d write me back…I like getting mail…

Lindsy: I know, I gotta start writing you more…

Tommy: I know you do…Pfft…I don’t even get probably a letter a week from ya…I got a stack of letters and most of them aren’t from you (laughs hard)

Lindsy: Who are they from>?

Tommy: MY mom, dad, my nanny, Aunt Vicki, Tim & Chelsea, man I got some from you…but I think there’s more from other people then from you…

Lindsy: well, I love you…shut up

Tommy: I love you too…

Lindsy: I’ll start…I’ll start writing you more

Tommy: You need ta quit feeling so lonley..

Lindsy: I do feel lonley…

Tommy: I know…I wish you wasn’t…

Lindsy:I don’t like being by myself….so…

Tommy: Yea, well…you’re gonna have to be for a little while probably…but it’s ok…It’s work out..

Lindsy: Yea (weakly)

Tommy: I’m sick of argueing with you when I talk to you on the phone cuz it a..it makes me feel bad, I’m tellin ya that right now…

Lindsy: Well, you get a…you get….

Tommy: Go up to my room and just Fn…agghh…you know?

Lindsy: Yea, but it just seems like every time I talk to you on the phone, there is a something…you’re doing something…

Tommy: Well,…Yea, I wish they would have put me in a rehab…that’s what I need, I know that…but those F*ckers probably ain;t gonna want to do that…that’s what I really need. Send me to a rehab for a Fn year or two if that’s what they want…

Lindsy: (hesitates) yep…I know I’d rather say my husband is in rehab then say my husband is in prison…

Tommy: I know…Well, you’ll probably be saying one of em…Sounds bad but I guess things could be worse…at least I’m alive, you’re alive, kids are ..we’ve got good healthy kids…

Lindsy: Healthy kids, not good kids all the time…(Laughs)

Tommy: They’re good…they’re just kids…kids are gonna be kids…You were the same way when you were a kid…I know I was…I was rowdy….

Lindsy: I don’t think I…I think…

Tommy: Sh*t, I was in all kinds of trouble…(Laughs)

Lindsy: Not me…I’d of been in trouble by my parents…

Tommy: So when you gonna come see me again? Tuesday?

Lindsy: MmmHmmm (positive)

TOmmy: ALright…Good…

Lindsy: Yep…I love you….

Tommy: I love you…

Lindsy: What’s that sitting at that table around you?

Tommy: Pencils…that they still ain’t sharpened…

Lindsy: Oh, it’s blurry, that’s why I asked

Tommy: I forgot..I’m glad you said that because I forgot my only two pencils are sitting out there on the table…(Laughs)

Lindsy: (Laughs)

Tommy: I wrote you like a 4-page letter last night and…

Lindsy: Holy Crap…

Tommy: and sent it out…Well, front & back, you know…

Lindsy: Oh…

TOmmy: It’s like 3 ..it’s actually six front & back…3 ..3 pages front & back…

Lindsy: Dang….

Tommy: And them MFers better send it to ya! and not keep it, it has nothing to do with anything!

Lindsy: (laughs)

Tommy: I don’t know why they gotta look at all my letters, it’s BS! but…

Lindsy: You’re dad’s over there saying “Keep believing” ..”Keep believin in God”..You can hear the whole conversation….

TOmmy: She’s a little liar…

Lindsy: Huh???

Tommy: She’s a liar…

Lindsy: Oh, I know she is…

Tommy: She’ll get what’s comming to her…

Lindsy: Yep…

TOmmy: Says it in the Bible…

Lindsy: (hesitates) Yep…

Tommy: I worte the verse down for ..uh..them to send to her..not to send her but to tell her when they talk to her..

Lindsy: You did?…

TOmmy: About liars…mmm hmmm (affirmative)

Lindsy: Good!

Tommy: It’s Revelations 21: 7..or 6-8 something like that…

Lindsy: Alright, I’ll have to look it up…(pause) I love you…

Tommy: I love you too…

Lindsy: I’ve got my ID in my pocket (laughs)

Tommy: DO ya? Still got mine? Son;t loose mine, my license…

Lindsy: I got it in my purse with your wallet

Tommy: Because if you lose it…when I ..if I ever get out of here Fn, I won’t have a Borth Certificate so I ain’t gonna be able to get another one until I get a Brith Certificate, I don’t even know….

Lindsy: We can worry about that when you get out…

Tommy: When does it expire?

Lindsy: 2012…

Tommy: Well, I might not be in here until then…

Lindsy: I mean not …no..no…

Tommy: (Laughs)

Lindsy: I mean 2000…no, I mean 2011…

Tommy: Yea, well, still I can have it to take up there to get a copy…to get a new one, they’ll know that that’s me…instead of having the Birth Certificate and all that sh*t….

Lindsy: Yea, but you still have to have it to change the …to change my um..address on my license…

Tommy: Yea…

Lindsy: I had to bring my Brith Certificate…and all that stuff…marriage license…

Tommy: That’s BS!!!

Lindsy: Now you gotta have all that stuff…

Tommy: YOu should’t have to have it cuz you already done it, got’ve got a star on your license..that’s what that means…Memeber that’s what the lady told us…

Lindsy: I thought…NO..she said that that meant….

Tommy: That she’d done went through..you done went through with all the Fn paperwork that they started doin…havin to have your BC, all that sh*t…Member that’s what they told us…

Lindsy: No , I don’t….

TOmmy: And mine don’t have it!

Lindsy: I thought about riding on airplanes, she said something about flying on airplanes…

Tommy: No, it’s for all that…

Lindsy: Oh…

Tommy: That she…that you’ve proved that’s who you are…

Lindsy: He’s over…You’re dad’s over there tellin Misty Don’t protect Ronald…

Tommy: …I think that’s what she’s doing…I swear!~

Lindsy: I do too…I do too

Tommy: I think Her and him are involved in something and they’re protecting each other…or she’s protecting him or somethin…

Lindsy: Well,..he’s ?? somethin too, cuz he ain;t said nothing bad about her…

Tommy: I think it’s what ROnald told us…that’s what happened…

Lindsy: Now he’s kickin himself in the @ss cuz he told us…

Tommy: Yea, cuz now it’s probably too late…they know they..can’t give the kid up..there’s gonna be Fn …they know they’ll be F*cked! (pause) But the police don;t want to hear that…

Lindsy: Well, they just want the Croslins to be …be in the middle of it.

Tommy: I was talking to a guy in here who said ..ss..same sh*t about ..Fn the Mexican mafia in Fn Crescent City…He owed em $600.00 bucks and they ..come Fn with guns to his door…to collect their money…

Lindsy: Dang…Yea..I think she’s…I think she’s coverin for somebody…

Tommy: I think she’s coverin for her ole man….

Lindsy: Yea, cuz she was like…it’s all

Tommy: So in love with the d@mn dude…

Lindsy: Yea, It was like all she’d need, She’slike I love Ronald, I’ll always love Ronald, I don;t regret my tattoo…send me a picture of Ronald mom…

Tommy: (Laughs) Yea, she’s so stupid…alright, well, I wash my hands of…I love her but I ain’t gonna …I really don;t want nothin to do with her no more…All this trouble she’s brought on our family…I mean I’ll always love her, I can’t say I won’t…I will love my little sister, my little baby sister, but she…I don’t…I don’t know what’s her problem anymore…SHe needs some help…

Lindsy: Yea, I don’t know …I don’t…(sighs) I don’t know if she thinks this is just a game or…

Tommy: Ever since she got with Ronald, man…

Lindsy: She’s not been the same Misty…

Tommy: Nope…Sh*t, I remeber that I didn’t like Rob but I kind of wished she’d of stayed with his little punk @ss…

Lindsy: What now?

Tommy: Said I really didn’t like Rob too much but I kind of wished she’d of stayed with him, she should of stayed her @ss in New Jersey…

Lindsy: Welp, she’s got a picture of her and Rob in there right now…

Tommy: Does she? Even though she Fn used to get beat up by him…but oh well, she was gettin beat up by Ronald too…

Lindsy: Yea, I was just gonna say She was gettin beat up by him too

Tommy: (Laughs) I don’t know what…I don’t understand that sh*t…

Lindsy: I know…I don’t know honey…I don’t even know what to think anymore…

Tommy: I really don’t like talkin about it cause I know they’re gonna Fn throw this sh*t on TV…

Lindsy: Yea, I know…

Tommy: Just gives them fuel to put…you know to add…to their flames…

Lindsy: Yea, I just…I just go with the flow…I don’t even know what to think anymore…

Tommy: I know…I know what I think…same thing I just told ya…

Lindsy: Yea, I know…I know..I love you honey…I know you didn’t do…

TOmmy: I love you…

Lindsy: nothin or I wouldn’t come see you…

Tommy: Yep…I know I didn;t have nothin to do with it either..you know I’m not down for some sh*t like that…I ain’t gonna hurt no kid…I ain’t gonna take nobodys d@mn kids, I got my own GD kids

Lindsy: and you’re a really bad liar anyways…you would have told somebody…

TOmmy: (Laughs)

Lindsy: You would have told one of us…(Laughs)

Tommy: (Laughs)

Lindsy: On one of your drunken, messed up stupors…

Tommy: (laughs) yep…(Laughs again)

Lindsy: You would have told somebody…

Tommy: Yea cuz I get drunk and confess to sh*t…ahhh (Laughs)

Lindsy: Mmm Hmmm ( affirmative) Yes you do…

Tommy: Yep…

Lindsy: That’s how I find out all the …good stuff about ya…

TOmmy: (Laughs hard) I love you!

Lindsy: I love you too…

Tommy: I know I’m done with the drugs and Fn running around acting stupid…

Lindsy: I hope so, I hope you’re growin up now…

Tommy: Yea, it kind of sucks it took this to do it to me but…it did..but I still, I’m sure I’ll still need some rehab…that sh*t’s still in my head…you know…

Lindsy: They say it takes like 4 months..

Tommy: Sometimes I’ll be up there bored and I’ll think “D@mn, I wish I had a Roxie…dang I wish I had a Roxie…(laughs)

Linsdy: That’s bad…

Tommy: I know…It sucks…but I know I’m gettin better…I feel good…I don’t feel Fn all depressed like I used to all the time, just like Ugghh, layin around hurting…

Lindsy: Is it still crazy though, not to be smokin cigarettes?

Tommy: Yea, it’s just like drugs…I don’t know if I’ll, I might smoke when I come home, I don’t know…(laughs) I’m gonna try not to cause I really don’t feel the urge for them now…

Lindsy: You just miss that old habit of …

Tommy: Yea, it’s the habit..anyone can break it, just don’t do it…

Lindsy: I know (giggles) yesterday we got done workin out …did I tell you?

Tommy: (ignores her wuestion) My..my throat don’t get sore like it used to and …I don’t know..you know..being away from all those toxins in my body, I kind of feel better…

Lindsy: Did I….

TOmmy: I’m alot healthier…

Lindsy: yesterday that I uh…that uh..when we got done workin out..I’m like I need a cigarette and everyone’s like “No, don;t smoke” (Laughs)

Tommy: Yea…I guess that is a good thing to come out of this…it’s gonna help me get better…and I mean…

Lindsy: I’m gonna be buffed…

TOmmy: and I can’t have…I can’t..I can;t hate the police…they gotta do their job…

Lindsy: Did you hear me? I’m gonna

Tommy: Yea!

Lindsy: Be buff and you’re gonna be healthy or I’m gonna kick your @ss…

Tommy: Yep…

Lindsy: I’ll get put…Oh..I forgot to tell you… I talked to Cher this morning…

Tommy: Yea, what’s up with her?

Lindsy: SHe’s probably gonna come see you while I’m in Mass

Tommy: Is she?

Lindsy: Mmmm Hmmm (Affirmative)

TOmmy: I need her address, get her address for me so I can write her…

Lindsy: Alright, I’ll get it…

Tommy: And we owe em $100 bucks too…for awhile…

Lindsy: Oh well,

Tommy: I know…(laughs)

Lindsy: I’m not gonna give it to them…you can give it to them when you can…I don’t owe them $100 bucks…

TOmmy: I know (laughs) See, I lost their address and I didn’t have their address , their phone, so that’s why I didn’t …fn get paid…

Lindsy: What do you owe them a $100 bucks for?

Tommy: Member, they borrowed me $100 bucks when they were down here before…you don’t remeber that?

Lindsy: No…

Tommy: We didn’t have no cigarettes n sh*t…last…last tax season…

Lindsy: Oh…

Tommy: Well, before they left…but see..our phone got disconnected so, and all the d@mned numbers that were in out phone and they all got deleted so I couldn;t get ahold of her…

Lindsy:Well, she didn;t say anything about it and I doubt that she will but…

Tommy: I know…

Lindsy: But, yea, she’s gonna try to come see you…um…either while I’m in Mass or when I get home…

Tommy: Can you put her on the list?

Lindsy: No…

Tommy: Oh…

Lindsy: She has to do it…

Tommy: Well, she…it takes a day for it to get approved, don’t it?

Lindsy: Yea, but like if she filled it out today, she could come and see you tomorrow…

Tommy: What did she say about all this sh*t?

Lindsy: She just couldn’t believe it…she’s pizzed with Misty…

Tommy: Is she? Well, It’s not really Misty’s fault…

Lindsy: No but she’s mad because of all the stuff on TV and….

TOmmy: Oh, I know….

Lindsy: How..how Misty’s let this go this far…

Tommy: I know…but get her address for me, man…so I can write her…You got her number? Her phone number?

Lindsy: ummm Hmmm ( affirmative)

TOmmy: Well, call her and get her address…

Lindsy: Dustin’s not in the Army no more…

END of audio….(Phhewww!)

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